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At Queenstown, Frederick sent a letter to his wife with instructions to pick up his pay from the White Star Line offices in Southampton. He made it into the water, but was unable to get into one of the few lifeboats available. It is believed he died of hypothermia in the freezing ocean. Of the 35 greasers on board the Titanic, only four were saved.

The effect on Susan Woodford and her two young daughters was devastating. Not only did they lose a husband and father, but also the only wage earner. Despite money from the Titanic Fund, times were very difficult. Contracting illnesses, Susan and her eldest daughter were placed in convalescent homes. During the course of their stay, young Annie Freda died of diphtheria in and when her mother died of influenza in , Susan May became an orphan at the age of eight. Cunningham Fireman 30 S'ton 6.

Dickson Trimmer 36 S'ton 5. Ferris Leading Fireman 38 S'ton 6. Fitzpatrick Junior Boilermaker 28 Belfast B Edward Flarty Fireman 43 S'ton 6. Ford Trimmer 22 S'ton 5. Foster Storekeeper 37 Belfast 7. Faser Fireman 30 S'ton 6. Golder Fireman 32 S'ton 6. Gordon Trimmer 29 S'ton 5. Gosling Trimmer 26 S'ton 5. Hall Fireman 32 S'ton 6. Harrison Junior 2nd Engineer 38 Belfast Head Fireman 24 S'ton 6. Hodges Fireman 26 S'ton 6.

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B Charles Ingram Trimmer 21 S'ton 5. Northam, S'ton B. Instance Fireman 33 S'ton 6. Joas Fireman 38 S'ton 6. B James Jukes Greaser 35 S'ton 6. Kearl Trimmer 24 S'ton 5. Kinsella Fireman 30 S'ton 6. New posts Trending Search forums. What's new. New posts New media New media comments New resources Latest activity. New media New comments Search media. Latest reviews Dashboard Search resources. Thread starter Kristjan Peterson Start date Dec 23, JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

Kristjan Peterson. Dec 23, 43 0 What Did greasers on the ship??? Andrew J. Kahl Member. Mar 26, 39 0 They lubercated equipment and asst.

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This is to the best of my knowledge. Mark Baber Moderator. Dec 29, 6, Please note that the message you're responding to is more than three years old and Kristjan Peterson has not visited this board since October , as shown by clicking on the name next to the message. Therefore, it is not likely that s he will see or respond to your message. Ana Florencia Pinton Member. Feb 21, 2 48 32 Lloret de Mar, Gerona Spain. And why would they have their own mess hall separated from that of the firemen while the trimmers, for example, shared it? Matteo Eyre Member.

Feb 7, 1 I would like to know why so few survived, not one entered a lifeboat unless pulled from the water or on board the collapsible B, why was this?? Bob Godfrey Member. Nov 22, 6, 51 UK. Basically yes, they did stay behind with the engineers because they were engineers - or rather the mechanics who maintained and ran the machinery under supervision of the engineering officers.

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So they weren't released from duty until few if any of the boats remained on the ship. The firemen and trimmers has a higher survival rate because most of them, having nothing to do any more, were released much earlier and some were able to find places in boats as oarsmen or in the general scramble for the last boats on the starboard side aft.

As you know, the few greasers who survived did so by finding their way by various means into or onto boats that had already been lowered. I thought they may have been engineers after watching a programme depicting the final events in the life of Frank Goree, i wonder why they havent been credited as heroes of the sinking whereas the engineers have, sad, i thought they may have been released earlier, i'm guessing at this but were many of the men who worked the pumps in boiler room 5 greasers??

They did get credit in that they were all engineers - officers and the men they commanded. Certainly the men working the pumps were all 'engineers' in that broader sense, and in the testimony of I think Scott there is mention of the work of manhandling the long suction pipes being done by greasers. Not sure what you mean by 'one survivor' - of the men working the pumps? You know that there were 4 surviving greasers all told? Some of these perhaps made their own decision about when they should make for the boat deck - like Ranger. Did he not tell the Inquiry that he made for the upper decks on his own initiative when he considered that he had "done his work" he'd been ordered to switch off all the fans?

Oh right, i wasn't aware of that, that was what i thought, the idea of transporting heavy pipes through the ship made me assume greasers, so would the natural path of a greaser be to become to an engineer?? By one survivor i meant that from what i had read somewhere it said that of the 4 greasers to survive only one of them I think the site said Dillon was the only surviving greaser to have worked at the pipes until they were told they could leave by Joseph Bell, all the others you mentioned Ranger had left before the order was given, i need to start writing down websites i use and books i read ey, i thought the fans were lower "qualified" engineers responsibility??

Cheers Bob Matteo. The qualified engineers made the decisions, gave the orders and supervised the work.

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They weren't frightened of getting their own hands dirty and certainly possessed all the manual skills, but they needed teams of greasers to provide most of the skilled labour. Ranger, who was certainly a greaser, mentioned in his testimony that he had been repairing a fan when the ship struck the berg.

I imagine that electrical maintenance was his speciality. There was, however, no direct path of promotion from greaser to qualified engineer.

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The engineers ie the officers were trained as such and generally set out on their career paths by becoming apprentices and beginning to study for formal qualifications straight after leaving school generally at the age of This required a lot of effort and dedication. An older man with a family to support would find it difficult to follow such a path.

I would imagine they wouldn't, were these greasers the lowest aboard the ship then?? Lightoller would have done??

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I think we had a conversation once before about who were 'lowest' of the crew members and I can only say what I said then - depends what you mean by 'lowest'. Lowest paid? As you know, the engineering crew were generally well paid better than the deck crew for instance because they did work that needed a lot of continuous effort in often unpleasant conditions.